COMMENT: Marty, I just had to write. While everyone is blaming Trump and tariffs for the stock market crash, not only did Socrates forecast that months in advance, but I trade copper professionally, as you know. What you have created should be recognized as the answer society has been searching for over the millennium. It projected a January low, a two-month reaction, and a Panic for April 2025 with a Directional Change. I was at your WEC in Orlando and Rome when Nigel Farage said you were the alternative to Davos. What you have discovered goes beyond any Nobel Prize. Socrates has exceeded all expectations.
Nobody comes close to your forecasting ability. I can’t wait for Marcus’ film. It was great that you brought him on stage so we could see a face behind the Forecaster.
DC
REPLY: Thank you. What I discovered was that we are all indeed connected globally. As I said, over the years, many people have come to encourage me, from John Exter and Milton Friedman to Margaret Thatcher. I believe that the world would be a better place if we just listened for once. Maggie understood cycles. She stated at our WEC perhaps government should look to cycle to operate.
As we head into an economic decline worldwide, bottoming in 2028, Copper prices have declined due to a combination of factors influencing supply and demand dynamics. There has been Reduced Demand from Key Economies, especially China, a major consumer of copper (used in construction, infrastructure, and manufacturing), as it is experiencing its own economic deceleration, leading to lower copper demand. Global recessions in industrial activity (e.g., during the COVID-19 pandemic) started the depression in demand.
Overproduction has also been an issue as expansion of mining operations or new mines coming online (e.g., in Chile, Peru, or the Democratic Republic of Congo) have led to oversupply, outpacing demand. Then there are High Inventory Levels as we have seen an elevated stockpile in exchanges like the LME and Shanghai Futures Exchange, signalling excess supply, pressuring prices downward.
Then there was also the stronger dollar. As copper is priced in dollars, a stronger dollar makes it more expensive for foreign buyers, reducing demand and lowering prices. This also encourages and increases foreign production for the currency bonus. There has been a gradual shift to alternatives (e.g., aluminum in electrical wiring) or adopting more efficient technologies/recycling, reducing copper demand to some extent.
Tariffs and trade barriers (e.g., U.S.-China trade tensions) have also disrupted supply chains and dampened demand. Stricter policies, intended to raise production costs, could also incentivize alternatives and have indirectly affected demand.
In summary, copper’s decline typically reflects the interplay between macroeconomic trends, supply-chain adjustments, currency movements, and investor behavior. Specific triggers vary by timeframe but often hinge on China’s economic health and global industrial demand.
I try to show the world there is something here. There is a hidden order within the appearance of chaos. Once you see the pattern and the order, you can never see the chaos again. It is more important than the next trade. There is a method to this, and how we should look at society instead of trying to manipulate it. Yes, the array on Copper was perfect. I’m glad it helped your company and glad you now see the order within the chaos.
This is the array from our old site back in 1999; I took it from the Wayback Machine. The computer had projected a Panic Cycle in 2008, virtually 10 years in advance. We can follow Marx and Keynes and assume that the government has the supreme power to manipulate society and create constant wars and devastation, like this stupid climate change nonsense. Nobody wants to understand how the universe functions, which leads humanity down this path of continuous disasters.
Even Paul Volcker encouraged me and agreed there was a business cycle of about 8 years. I can scream from the rooftops, but they will not listen. As they say, you will never be recognized during your lifetime because you will always be a threat to the status quo. I think that wisestale is probably true.
