Almost at no point in the last 10 years has Trump been a majority popular figure with a majority of Americans. But at this point, I think we’ve learned that you’re not going to see something like, in the absence of maybe some catastrophic economic meltdown, you’re not going to see anything like the kind of low approval ratings that you saw for George W. Bush, say, at the end of his second term, that he has a higher floor than most politicians because of the dedication of that Republican base. However, however, the biggest issue in confronting Trump has always been that that 60 percent of America never really was fully united on getting rid of Trump. They may not have liked him, some percentage of that. They may not have liked him, but some of them were saying, he was able to get a plurality of the popular vote in 2024 in part because there are some people who did not like him who were like: I’m going to vote for him anyway because I don’t like the present conditions. I don’t like inflation. Et cetera. Et cetera. The key to ending Trumpism isn’t necessarily, and people need to get out of their heads this idea that, aha, this is the thing that will fracture his base, and instead put in your head, aha, is this the thing that could finally unite his opposition. Because the uniting of the opposition to Trump would mean a 60/40 arrangement in this country. Not an evenly divided, not a closely divided. And so that is to me, the question.
