Unless I am literally a terrorist, the odds that people are going to be constantly watching and scrutinizing me are very low. But then the fear becomes, well, if we have this incredible way to make it all more and more and more efficient, then maybe privacy does start to disappear. I don’t know — what do you make, what do you make of that? Well, are you saying that you feel safer because the institutions that are supposed to protect you are structurally incompetent? And that’s the part where I feel like —— The answer might be yes, sometimes. Yeah. And then a consequence of that is they also can’t do their job. They can’t protect you from the things that they’re supposed to protect you from. So I’d offer another solution to this, which is they should be really good at doing what they’re doing. And we should have a strong ability to oversee that they’re not doing things that they’re not supposed to be doing. That’s exactly what we designed Palantir to do. So this wasn’t our system. But I think it’s an illustrative example, because it was high profile at the time. If you go back in time, there were government employees who looked up the passports of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, and they got caught. How did they get caught? The system they’re using generates audit logs. People were reviewing the audit log. And did you have a permissible use to look this up? The answer was clearly no. And so you have to both help the people who are protecting us. And you have to empower the people who are watching the watchers. So who is watching the watchers? So let’s, well, we can stick with immigration enforcement. It is up to the people running those institutions to decide whether to basically track abuses at all. And it might be at different levels and different agencies, but presumably in the Department of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem would have the authority to track or not track abuses to some degree. I mean, yeah, I think that’s a little bit of a nihilistic view. I understand the perspective. I don’t agree with it that, hey, we can’t trust these institutions at all. It’s like, there are rules. They follow the rules. They’re also humans. But I don’t think people are like, willy-nilly deciding whether they want to do this or not. No, I don’t think so either. I’m just trying to frame what I think are the most commonplace criticisms and critiques and worries about how this technology is used in the context of the second Trump administration. There is just a way in which you, independent of what you think about Trump himself, when Palantir goes to work for a government, U.S. government, any other government, you are putting yourself in the position of trusting that government with this very impressive technology that you’ve built. Yeah, I think that’s right. That’s you have to pick your customers.
